Jen was emailed me today...We ended up on IM. I got the idea hubby was right there, and turned out he was. Awkward pauses ensued. They were hoping I would stop by tonight. Jen knows why this isn't feasable, her hubby of does not.
My best plan in advance alibi is Wednesday nights so I suggested that.
I eventually encouraged Jen to call me and had her call when I knew my hubby was out. She got rid of hers so we could talk. I told her about my trepidations of keeping up the facade of my willing husband. She understands and we have a "return date" scheduled for the Wednesday a week after.
If I'm going to take the risk of not being where I say I am, I figure might as well plan on a hot time. We instead though are having a "get-to-know-you" dinner date at a restaurant with a little bar with probably lounge-singer live music. It's one of those hotels attached places. Busy when conventions (rare) are in town and dead other times..ought to be dead this time.
I told Jen about Mark offering to be a stand-in hubby. She giggled about that. She didn't think it would be "necessary" as her hubby is uncomfortable with actually meeting mine. Doesn't want to think too much about it. She didn't get (or was avoiding thinking about) that I was offering to have her spend some "quality time" with Mark and I. Baby steps.
What we have planned is killing time on or "return date" by actually going out with Diana that night. I don't know if I will introduce Jen to Diana as what the situation is, or leave it as "a friend" that needs to get out.
Wen hubby got home from his errands, I kinda attacked him middle of the afternoon or not. On the one hand I was good and horny, but I wasn't "there" in a way and I think he sensed it. It is not without its costs doing the things I have been doing.
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Tuesday, September 28, 2010
Partner in Crime?
Talked to 'Jen' today for quite a while. Got some things out on the table.
I had already admitted to her that hubby doesn't know I contacted them and might never know. That realistically it would be difficult to mention it to him after the fact and go through with a meeting if I had already spent time with them as a couple.
She admitted that although this had sort of evolved from an idea of her husbands when they couldn't find a single girl to join them, she loved the idea of some "alone time" with a couple herself. We talked about it in terms of cuckolding although I din;t use that term.
It seems that her husband is OK with her going with a couple, but its one of those close his eyes and not think about it things. He doesn't want to hear about it except as it pertains to the girl-girl stuff. I pointed out he could have serious regrets about it if he truly isn't into her being with the couple as a couple.
I ended up talking to him myself. I had told Jen to give him some privacy because I didn't want him to tell me in her presence what he thinks she or I want to hear. He admitted it made him nervous, but he said he was totally OK with her reciprocating on 'our end'. Bear in mind 'our end' is just me, actually. I pursued the thought pretty hard with him. Asking "Do you just want to see the two of us together and set a limit on what happens when Jen visits?"
He was pretty emphatic that although he is nervous he thinks it is exciting that she is as excited about the visit. She gave me the impression that she had kept to herself the excitement she felt about her freedom to be with both haves of the couple... Either she had been more explicit than she thinks or he more perceptive.
So point blank I said, "The deal I have with my husband is ANYTHING you do with me, he gets to do with Jen."
"Understood."
I went on to explain that depending on how things go, how we all feel, I intended to make any and everything available. "You realize that will likely mean I am watching my husband fucking Jen senseless?"
He got kind of quiet but As I probed further I realized he was kind of excited about it. It helped that I described in graphic terms what he could expect of me and to picture Jen would be doing the same things later.
When he gave the phone back to Jen we just chatted innocuously I somehow was having trouble going back and forth between them. Made me wonder how I would handle the two of them together. I ended up casually mentioning to Jen to call me when he goes out. I had for the most part talked to them from my car, occaisionally havinjg to watch what I say as I went in and stood in line for my lunch and did a coupld of errands.
I was picking up some things in an office supply store and it was pretty empty. I had that privacy in public illusion you get in public at the time. This is not when I was discussing anything graphic, but an odd half smile from a woman I ran into several aisles later made me replay it in my head wondering what i had said.
Its hard to think straight when in the throes of whatever it is I am in the throes of, so I better watch it.
So tonight Jen called me back after her hubby went out for a while. We really talked then. I was tempted just to give her this blog to bring her up to speed, but that is a Rubicon I don't think I should cross with anyone. Once you know people you know read your blog I am sure it changes how you write and what you say.
I did give her the synopsis of my recent activities. She was shocked that I have two paramours at the moment. asked a lot about how I met them and so on. She almost seemed to be taking notes. I felt a little slutty when I laid it out to someone else in the cold light of day. She wanted details and in the telling I lost a little of my shyness in the euphoria of telling it and reliving it as I did.
Turns out she has had some extra-marital experience herself. She kinda told me to make me feel less guilty as she said. Turns out she had me by a couple as she admitted to having had five separate flings in her I think nine year marriage. She explained that only one of them was an on=going thing but she broke that off when it got 'too intense'. The others, 'just happened'.
We talked about that and it seems she is open to cheating but has to feel like she hadn't sought it out. As I pointed out the end result is the same and she gets better quality if she influences the events...she seemed pretty open to that idea. She said she couldn't bring herself to hit on someone. She had had a lot of questions about Ashley-Madison and we basically left it that she was going to sneak onto there and 'have a look.' Not sure how I feel about being the corrupter of semi-innocent housewives. She actually is by the way, a housewife. Stays home, watches the kids. Doesn't do PTA. Does bake cookies. Like that.
We talked about how to handle me not having a willing hubby on my end as advertised. I was dangling the bait of Mark out there, but she didn't catch on or wasn't interested, not sure. She giggled that we should just go shopping and eat ice-cream and tell her hubby she got rode hard. I suggested maybe we just have some girl-girl time alone. She was enthusiastic about that idea. She pointed out it would probably be different to be alone together than to feel like we were performing for her hubby (Or my semi-imaginary one). We flirted with the idea of a pre-date date, but worried we would somehow give it away that we weren't surprised enough by each other.
I told her about Diana and how there is some tension there, but as co-workers its awkward and I don;t trust her not to say something, because she kinda speaks before she thinks sometimes. Not a good co-conspirator. I mentioned going to the bar with Diana at my husbands urging and she thought his being OK with that was curious. She said hers would totally go for it because as far as he was concerned she was reeling in a girl for a three-way.
We decided to tell her husband that mine is getting cold feet but is still somewhat open to the idea. That way there is no pressure to set a date that I may or may not have an alibi for.
When I logged in to write this I had several increasingly urgent messages from Gabe. He seemed miffed that I wasn't online to check in this morning. I kinda didn't like his tone. I didn't fire back as I considered as I do have fun with him. One of the messages said something about "You're probably tied up on a hot date?"
Not that it is any of his business. I have hinted with both Mark and Gabe that I have other interests in a way to let them know I am not interested in a formal arrangement. I mean really I am cheating!!..must I be faithful to a paramour?? I have been fairly explicit with Brian of course I took the analogy of his being a dildo in my drawer of sex-toys almost to saying almpst that way. Brian the dildo seemed to be a little more gentlemanly about despite his youth and inexperience than Gabe.
Damn! I just realized I didn't even mention Brian in my confessional with Jen. I'll have to go back to booth and say a few "Hail Jen's" or something. Weird I left him out.
I had already admitted to her that hubby doesn't know I contacted them and might never know. That realistically it would be difficult to mention it to him after the fact and go through with a meeting if I had already spent time with them as a couple.
She admitted that although this had sort of evolved from an idea of her husbands when they couldn't find a single girl to join them, she loved the idea of some "alone time" with a couple herself. We talked about it in terms of cuckolding although I din;t use that term.
It seems that her husband is OK with her going with a couple, but its one of those close his eyes and not think about it things. He doesn't want to hear about it except as it pertains to the girl-girl stuff. I pointed out he could have serious regrets about it if he truly isn't into her being with the couple as a couple.
I ended up talking to him myself. I had told Jen to give him some privacy because I didn't want him to tell me in her presence what he thinks she or I want to hear. He admitted it made him nervous, but he said he was totally OK with her reciprocating on 'our end'. Bear in mind 'our end' is just me, actually. I pursued the thought pretty hard with him. Asking "Do you just want to see the two of us together and set a limit on what happens when Jen visits?"
He was pretty emphatic that although he is nervous he thinks it is exciting that she is as excited about the visit. She gave me the impression that she had kept to herself the excitement she felt about her freedom to be with both haves of the couple... Either she had been more explicit than she thinks or he more perceptive.
So point blank I said, "The deal I have with my husband is ANYTHING you do with me, he gets to do with Jen."
"Understood."
I went on to explain that depending on how things go, how we all feel, I intended to make any and everything available. "You realize that will likely mean I am watching my husband fucking Jen senseless?"
He got kind of quiet but As I probed further I realized he was kind of excited about it. It helped that I described in graphic terms what he could expect of me and to picture Jen would be doing the same things later.
When he gave the phone back to Jen we just chatted innocuously I somehow was having trouble going back and forth between them. Made me wonder how I would handle the two of them together. I ended up casually mentioning to Jen to call me when he goes out. I had for the most part talked to them from my car, occaisionally havinjg to watch what I say as I went in and stood in line for my lunch and did a coupld of errands.
I was picking up some things in an office supply store and it was pretty empty. I had that privacy in public illusion you get in public at the time. This is not when I was discussing anything graphic, but an odd half smile from a woman I ran into several aisles later made me replay it in my head wondering what i had said.
Its hard to think straight when in the throes of whatever it is I am in the throes of, so I better watch it.
So tonight Jen called me back after her hubby went out for a while. We really talked then. I was tempted just to give her this blog to bring her up to speed, but that is a Rubicon I don't think I should cross with anyone. Once you know people you know read your blog I am sure it changes how you write and what you say.
I did give her the synopsis of my recent activities. She was shocked that I have two paramours at the moment. asked a lot about how I met them and so on. She almost seemed to be taking notes. I felt a little slutty when I laid it out to someone else in the cold light of day. She wanted details and in the telling I lost a little of my shyness in the euphoria of telling it and reliving it as I did.
Turns out she has had some extra-marital experience herself. She kinda told me to make me feel less guilty as she said. Turns out she had me by a couple as she admitted to having had five separate flings in her I think nine year marriage. She explained that only one of them was an on=going thing but she broke that off when it got 'too intense'. The others, 'just happened'.
We talked about that and it seems she is open to cheating but has to feel like she hadn't sought it out. As I pointed out the end result is the same and she gets better quality if she influences the events...she seemed pretty open to that idea. She said she couldn't bring herself to hit on someone. She had had a lot of questions about Ashley-Madison and we basically left it that she was going to sneak onto there and 'have a look.' Not sure how I feel about being the corrupter of semi-innocent housewives. She actually is by the way, a housewife. Stays home, watches the kids. Doesn't do PTA. Does bake cookies. Like that.
We talked about how to handle me not having a willing hubby on my end as advertised. I was dangling the bait of Mark out there, but she didn't catch on or wasn't interested, not sure. She giggled that we should just go shopping and eat ice-cream and tell her hubby she got rode hard. I suggested maybe we just have some girl-girl time alone. She was enthusiastic about that idea. She pointed out it would probably be different to be alone together than to feel like we were performing for her hubby (Or my semi-imaginary one). We flirted with the idea of a pre-date date, but worried we would somehow give it away that we weren't surprised enough by each other.
I told her about Diana and how there is some tension there, but as co-workers its awkward and I don;t trust her not to say something, because she kinda speaks before she thinks sometimes. Not a good co-conspirator. I mentioned going to the bar with Diana at my husbands urging and she thought his being OK with that was curious. She said hers would totally go for it because as far as he was concerned she was reeling in a girl for a three-way.
We decided to tell her husband that mine is getting cold feet but is still somewhat open to the idea. That way there is no pressure to set a date that I may or may not have an alibi for.
When I logged in to write this I had several increasingly urgent messages from Gabe. He seemed miffed that I wasn't online to check in this morning. I kinda didn't like his tone. I didn't fire back as I considered as I do have fun with him. One of the messages said something about "You're probably tied up on a hot date?"
Not that it is any of his business. I have hinted with both Mark and Gabe that I have other interests in a way to let them know I am not interested in a formal arrangement. I mean really I am cheating!!..must I be faithful to a paramour?? I have been fairly explicit with Brian of course I took the analogy of his being a dildo in my drawer of sex-toys almost to saying almpst that way. Brian the dildo seemed to be a little more gentlemanly about despite his youth and inexperience than Gabe.
Damn! I just realized I didn't even mention Brian in my confessional with Jen. I'll have to go back to booth and say a few "Hail Jen's" or something. Weird I left him out.
Monday, September 27, 2010
Jen and I have phone-sex...
At least I did!
I decided that skulking about a payphone was silly so I waited till I knew I had some privacy today and used my sneaky phone after making sure I had plenty of airtime loaded up.
She picked up right away. Sounded even better than on her voice mail greeting. Seemed very genuine and engaging.
After a couple of minutes of "Hi, how are you" stuff, I got around to asking her if her other half was right there too?
She said he was in the room when I called but he 'hustled out of here to give me some privacy."
"Really?" I was kinda surprised at the gesture.
She laughed and explained, "He actually said 'I better go so I don't fuck it up!' referring to another semi-interested but nervous girl I had on the phone. He was asking me questions while I was talking to her and at some point she abruptly hung-up. he blames himself but I think she just was really that unsure."
That seemed funny. I said that I was a little nervous myself and she admitted as much...
We talked a bit about what her expectations were and his as well. We went over that and I was unprepared for what was pretty predictable.
"So how far is your husband OK with you going while you are here, and is he OK with us having our turn first or do I need to plan to visit you guys first?"
She went on to explain that her husband was hot enough for the idea that he was OK if I 'went first' but nervous about how he'd feel while waiting when he hadn't already had his turn so to speak.
This gave me time to recover. I admitted (truthfully) that we hadn't yet to give it enough thought and discussion to know what our boundaries will be. (None is in fact inadequate discussion) I had been sort of fishing with my even responding to the ad, not sure what I would do if I caught something..now I felt sure I wanted to meet them and most likely play, but how to tell them I am a cheating 'singleton' On the one hand I would bet money he'd go for it, I wondered if they would look down on me for cheating...I wondered how to approach it.
I hemmed an hawed around then finally came out with it.
I admitted I hadn't (yet) and possibly wouldn't tell hubby of my plans. I explained I thought he would more likely than not be appreciative, but it might lend some suspicion to other activities I had been engaging in....
She was intrigued. Suddenly I had a girlfriend I could unload a lot of delicious little secrets..I didn't go into details. I sure as hell didn;t point her to this blog. I admitted I had a couple of guys on the side at the moment. She was aghast and impressed. She hinted that although she wouldn't consider looking for it, she had had a couple of experiences in the (8ish?) years she was married. Now I was pretty sure her hubby was IN FACT out of the room...interesting tangle of intersecting obfuscations.
What I proposed to her was that we allow her husband to assume mine was on board and that ANYTHING that he wanted to do with me, he had to assume she would be green-lighted to do on her crosstown trip to our home. We figured we would put the reciprocal date into the future and postpone a couple of times and just play it by ear. I had some really kinky ideas about how that could play out but kept it to myself.
At some place I was a bit lost in reverie and was frankly teasing myself with a hand down my unbuttoned, unzipped and starting to get lost pants. I apparently trailed off a bit. She asked if I needed to go. I quickly said something like "No! Keep talking, please..." I blushed red realizing my distraction showed and explained sort of that I was lost in a moment, but to go on...
She seemed to catch on...and her voice grew a little husky. She described several scenes had thought about with a nameless faceless third wheel girl in the mix...good details...
At some point she said just a moment...she got up and apparently went out to her husband and I caught only 'going well' and that she went back to what I guessed was their room. The door closed audibly, and she explained to me she bought us some more time.
I asked her how she imagined it going and were there any particular activities she wanted to avoid or definitely hit. She basically said she wanted to 'do it all' and actually looked foward to seeing her husband 'in action' from a different perspective was how she put it. Wow.
At some point she slipped into a narrative style that reminded me so much of the way I talk to my husband about a fantasy or a past experience...she started to get detailed...she HAD to know I was following along mentally and , in my way, physically. I actually got off twice during the conversation...my breathing had to have given me away as well as my vacant..mmm, yeah responses at times.
My favorite was where she described in great detail watching her husbands eyes as she 'unwrapped' me and laid me into his lap as she went down on me. she described I remember him holding and cradling me as my back arched......
Oh My.
I asked her "Are you sure you guys haven't done this before?" Only a thousand times in my mind she responded.
Ok, now my dance card is REALLY full. I need a clone.
I ran into Diana before lunch so we ended up grabbing a corner table in the company snack canteen place. She didn't pry and I didn't give details about the needed alibi. I admitted to being a little insatiable in that I had a go at hubby when I got in. (Late.) She identified with how a really hot time can ramp up desire even more sometimes. I have no idea how I brought it up..it wasn't a slip but it wasn't planned, I mentioned (without details) that she had become a character in a little mind play with husband that night.
I had mentioned that I had made up a hot sounding outfit to go with my alibi..She laughed at that and had me describe it and corrected the minor details but said she actually was kinda dressed like that. Funny. Anyway I basically said that "It's my fault if hubby blushes next time you run into him." She hooted at that she said now she absolutely has to run into him sometime. If she only knew HOW involved her character was in that little fantasy play...on the other hand I think she'd like it.
I decided that skulking about a payphone was silly so I waited till I knew I had some privacy today and used my sneaky phone after making sure I had plenty of airtime loaded up.
She picked up right away. Sounded even better than on her voice mail greeting. Seemed very genuine and engaging.
After a couple of minutes of "Hi, how are you" stuff, I got around to asking her if her other half was right there too?
She said he was in the room when I called but he 'hustled out of here to give me some privacy."
"Really?" I was kinda surprised at the gesture.
She laughed and explained, "He actually said 'I better go so I don't fuck it up!' referring to another semi-interested but nervous girl I had on the phone. He was asking me questions while I was talking to her and at some point she abruptly hung-up. he blames himself but I think she just was really that unsure."
That seemed funny. I said that I was a little nervous myself and she admitted as much...
We talked a bit about what her expectations were and his as well. We went over that and I was unprepared for what was pretty predictable.
"So how far is your husband OK with you going while you are here, and is he OK with us having our turn first or do I need to plan to visit you guys first?"
She went on to explain that her husband was hot enough for the idea that he was OK if I 'went first' but nervous about how he'd feel while waiting when he hadn't already had his turn so to speak.
This gave me time to recover. I admitted (truthfully) that we hadn't yet to give it enough thought and discussion to know what our boundaries will be. (None is in fact inadequate discussion) I had been sort of fishing with my even responding to the ad, not sure what I would do if I caught something..now I felt sure I wanted to meet them and most likely play, but how to tell them I am a cheating 'singleton' On the one hand I would bet money he'd go for it, I wondered if they would look down on me for cheating...I wondered how to approach it.
I hemmed an hawed around then finally came out with it.
I admitted I hadn't (yet) and possibly wouldn't tell hubby of my plans. I explained I thought he would more likely than not be appreciative, but it might lend some suspicion to other activities I had been engaging in....
She was intrigued. Suddenly I had a girlfriend I could unload a lot of delicious little secrets..I didn't go into details. I sure as hell didn;t point her to this blog. I admitted I had a couple of guys on the side at the moment. She was aghast and impressed. She hinted that although she wouldn't consider looking for it, she had had a couple of experiences in the (8ish?) years she was married. Now I was pretty sure her hubby was IN FACT out of the room...interesting tangle of intersecting obfuscations.
What I proposed to her was that we allow her husband to assume mine was on board and that ANYTHING that he wanted to do with me, he had to assume she would be green-lighted to do on her crosstown trip to our home. We figured we would put the reciprocal date into the future and postpone a couple of times and just play it by ear. I had some really kinky ideas about how that could play out but kept it to myself.
At some place I was a bit lost in reverie and was frankly teasing myself with a hand down my unbuttoned, unzipped and starting to get lost pants. I apparently trailed off a bit. She asked if I needed to go. I quickly said something like "No! Keep talking, please..." I blushed red realizing my distraction showed and explained sort of that I was lost in a moment, but to go on...
She seemed to catch on...and her voice grew a little husky. She described several scenes had thought about with a nameless faceless third wheel girl in the mix...good details...
At some point she said just a moment...she got up and apparently went out to her husband and I caught only 'going well' and that she went back to what I guessed was their room. The door closed audibly, and she explained to me she bought us some more time.
I asked her how she imagined it going and were there any particular activities she wanted to avoid or definitely hit. She basically said she wanted to 'do it all' and actually looked foward to seeing her husband 'in action' from a different perspective was how she put it. Wow.
At some point she slipped into a narrative style that reminded me so much of the way I talk to my husband about a fantasy or a past experience...she started to get detailed...she HAD to know I was following along mentally and , in my way, physically. I actually got off twice during the conversation...my breathing had to have given me away as well as my vacant..mmm, yeah responses at times.
My favorite was where she described in great detail watching her husbands eyes as she 'unwrapped' me and laid me into his lap as she went down on me. she described I remember him holding and cradling me as my back arched......
Oh My.
I asked her "Are you sure you guys haven't done this before?" Only a thousand times in my mind she responded.
Ok, now my dance card is REALLY full. I need a clone.
I ran into Diana before lunch so we ended up grabbing a corner table in the company snack canteen place. She didn't pry and I didn't give details about the needed alibi. I admitted to being a little insatiable in that I had a go at hubby when I got in. (Late.) She identified with how a really hot time can ramp up desire even more sometimes. I have no idea how I brought it up..it wasn't a slip but it wasn't planned, I mentioned (without details) that she had become a character in a little mind play with husband that night.
I had mentioned that I had made up a hot sounding outfit to go with my alibi..She laughed at that and had me describe it and corrected the minor details but said she actually was kinda dressed like that. Funny. Anyway I basically said that "It's my fault if hubby blushes next time you run into him." She hooted at that she said now she absolutely has to run into him sometime. If she only knew HOW involved her character was in that little fantasy play...on the other hand I think she'd like it.
Sunday, September 26, 2010
Wife-swapping.
Quite a while ago we briefly stopped by and visited with some neighbors The occasion was welcoming a new couple to the neighborhood that don't otherwise figure into this story....The host couple are a bit younger and cute as hell. They were out front on this big porch they have and had assorted neighbors over for cocktails..All very 60's suburbia feel to it.
Wifey 1 was talking to Hubby 2 while Wifey 2 was talking to the husband of Wifey 1. Wifey 2 was laughing in a pleasant lilt and doing that touching the forearm flirt. It looked like something to me, if not now, in the future.
I nudged my hubby and told him to go make out with Wifey #1 I mean I drew his attention to the scene and said to him...so, do you think they swap? He was monetarily puzzled, then took in the scene again....the wheels a turning..I could almost hear them squeak and his mind is pretty well oiled most of the time.
Big grin. "You never know about people do you?"
"Fun to think about." Says I.
I was thinking of this scene yesterday and brought it up to hubby as a way of bouncing my Craigslist couple off of him. I realized I had such things on the brain, but this seemed a good opportunity to play what if with him. So we re-hashed the possible matches there and what would be most interesting to happen into, say on a porch swing.
We decided that we both liked Wifey #1 better in all sorts of ways, and that we could take or leave Hubbies #1 or #2. Later we extended the what ifs to a discussion of what amounted to soft swap ideas. I couldn't use that term because I didn't want to sound to well reserched, but he agreed it would be hot to be in the same room while another couple was going at it. For fantasy purposes we agreed it would be hotter to see Wife 1 and hubby @ just because it would be naughtier.
I asked flat out, "If getting Wifey #1 all to ourselves came at a cost of loaning me to them for the evening first would you do it? '"In a heartbeat" he said followed by "Kidding!" He was so not.
*Oh and I did find a phone -that works- third try. (I need to put some money on my sneaky pre-paid visa so I can add minutes to my sneaky prepaid pone-on-a-chip) I called 'Jen' as I shall call her since she sounded on her voicemail like my friend Jennifer. I didn't leave a message, then afterward got paranoid that it is some elaborate ruse and 'Jen' is a friend or a paid actress or..or..ok that's silly...
I sent her an email telling her I chickened out and she swore she will be available all day to pickup next time. ~nervous~
Wifey 1 was talking to Hubby 2 while Wifey 2 was talking to the husband of Wifey 1. Wifey 2 was laughing in a pleasant lilt and doing that touching the forearm flirt. It looked like something to me, if not now, in the future.
I nudged my hubby and
Big grin. "You never know about people do you?"
"Fun to think about." Says I.
I was thinking of this scene yesterday and brought it up to hubby as a way of bouncing my Craigslist couple off of him. I realized I had such things on the brain, but this seemed a good opportunity to play what if with him. So we re-hashed the possible matches there and what would be most interesting to happen into, say on a porch swing.
We decided that we both liked Wifey #1 better in all sorts of ways, and that we could take or leave Hubbies #1 or #2. Later we extended the what ifs to a discussion of what amounted to soft swap ideas. I couldn't use that term because I didn't want to sound to well reserched, but he agreed it would be hot to be in the same room while another couple was going at it. For fantasy purposes we agreed it would be hotter to see Wife 1 and hubby @ just because it would be naughtier.
I asked flat out, "If getting Wifey #1 all to ourselves came at a cost of loaning me to them for the evening first would you do it? '"In a heartbeat" he said followed by "Kidding!" He was so not.
*Oh and I did find a phone -that works- third try. (I need to put some money on my sneaky pre-paid visa so I can add minutes to my sneaky prepaid pone-on-a-chip) I called 'Jen' as I shall call her since she sounded on her voicemail like my friend Jennifer. I didn't leave a message, then afterward got paranoid that it is some elaborate ruse and 'Jen' is a friend or a paid actress or..or..ok that's silly...
I sent her an email telling her I chickened out and she swore she will be available all day to pickup next time. ~nervous~
Saturday, September 25, 2010
Update: Craigsnibbles.
I already got responses from all three couples looking for a single woman. (I can play one of those in a pinch.) None of them seem legit to me. Two are asking for pictures, one of which flat out says so he can tell if I am his girlfriend's 'type'. At least he generously allows that I don't 'have' to be nude in the picture, just wear something kinda revealing he says. Pass. How does he know what his girlfriend is going to respond to? The third is asking about my experience level in a threesome and I think he'd like me to tell him a tale. Buy a penthouse forum, or read my blog.
The Couple for Couple though shows promise. The ad had a sense of humor, and it came through in their (her?) response. She mentioned that they had frustrations looking for a single girl, but that he is not just Ok with but somewhat cautiously encouraging of her branching out with a couple. Pretty generous offer I think. Basically no obligation to service him, but she is allowed to help me out with 'my fella' if that helps seal the deal on my end. No pressure. Didn't ask for a picture or anything beyond the brief description I gave in my response. Left a phone number, "In case you want to chat about this." Nice (and clever) way of saying she would like to voice verify. This by the way is a good way to weed out the dudes who may or may not have a willing girl to add to the mix. Hmmm do they still make payphones? Looks around....
The Couple for Couple though shows promise. The ad had a sense of humor, and it came through in their (her?) response. She mentioned that they had frustrations looking for a single girl, but that he is not just Ok with but somewhat cautiously encouraging of her branching out with a couple. Pretty generous offer I think. Basically no obligation to service him, but she is allowed to help me out with 'my fella' if that helps seal the deal on my end. No pressure. Didn't ask for a picture or anything beyond the brief description I gave in my response. Left a phone number, "In case you want to chat about this." Nice (and clever) way of saying she would like to voice verify. This by the way is a good way to weed out the dudes who may or may not have a willing girl to add to the mix. Hmmm do they still make payphones? Looks around....
Craigslist....I was reading couple of posts the other day...
One on The Beautiful Kind's Blog about her experiences in the adult services section she aptly titled I Was a Craigslist Whore. The other was on the lovely M & K's Bedroom Blog titled Craigslist: The Others where they give a glimpse of the general types of fruitcakes one finds there.
On The Beautiful Kind's post I realized again all the many things I did wrong when I briefly strolled the corner of Craigslist. Turns out I was advertising in the casual encounters where most are suspected of being prostitutes, but actual prostitution is discouraged. They used to have a corner for that sort of thing under adult services but that was recently closed down after the newspaper industry that used to survive on such ads blackmailed Craig into shutting it down.
In my case I got no responses. Which was weird since when (rarely) I placed Craigslist ads in the past the two most common questions were, "Are you hooker -usually phrased more politely" and "Are you real?" No one ever thought to ask if I was a real hooker apparently.
M and K's reminded me of the few tentative replys I have made to couples where it has been painfully apparent that only the male half of the 'couple' (if he is even in a couple) is the only one involved in seeking out a three-way. I did see one honest ad where a dude was looking for a girl to help him find a second girl. Creative anyway.
So I trudged back in (strictly in the interest of journalism you know, it's dead at the newspapers).
I answered a few ads in the MW4W category and I answered one in the MW4MW even though I am in fact in a couple, perhaps a couple of couples come to that, I am not planning on dragging a partner or hubby to an orgy. But fun to think about. note: I chose Chicago for illustrative purposes, this is not to infer I am there or even nearby, or for that matter not there.
The one in couples for couples was pretty interesting. It brings into discussion here a term 'unicorn' that in Craigslist parlance is the ultimate find for a couple seeking a girl for a threesome. The ever elusive girl that not only wants to be in a girl-girl situation, is not only OK with the lucky dude watching, no she even will let him participate. Personally I would love to be that girl. I would be a little nervous about it..I don't want to fuck up anyone's relationship while I fuck them together, consecutively or simultaneously. But the possibilities are more than interesting.
The ad that caught my eye was one I had seen similar ads to in the past. Basically a couple give up on finding the unicorn, have a discussion and decide to loan the girl out to another couple provided said couple returns the favor, the girl and their girl.
I just browsed those Chicago ads looking for a similar deal but no luck..too many to look through. If you are in Chicago, though holy moly lotsa possibilities!
So I answered the couple looking for a couple be interesting to see how that conversation goes. Not sure how to go about exploring the what-ifs without looking like a craigslist flake myself. Which I am sort of. I always liked reading them long before I had any idea I was in fact, "that kinda wife."
Oh by the way for the un-tested without battle scars of wading through Craigslist responses, do NOT use either an email address that gives an indication of who you are, or for that matter that you mind having spammed. You will get spam galore depending on how well you read between the lines of the spammers posts.
On The Beautiful Kind's post I realized again all the many things I did wrong when I briefly strolled the corner of Craigslist. Turns out I was advertising in the casual encounters where most are suspected of being prostitutes, but actual prostitution is discouraged. They used to have a corner for that sort of thing under adult services but that was recently closed down after the newspaper industry that used to survive on such ads blackmailed Craig into shutting it down.
In my case I got no responses. Which was weird since when (rarely) I placed Craigslist ads in the past the two most common questions were, "Are you hooker -usually phrased more politely" and "Are you real?" No one ever thought to ask if I was a real hooker apparently.
M and K's reminded me of the few tentative replys I have made to couples where it has been painfully apparent that only the male half of the 'couple' (if he is even in a couple) is the only one involved in seeking out a three-way. I did see one honest ad where a dude was looking for a girl to help him find a second girl. Creative anyway.
So I trudged back in (strictly in the interest of journalism you know, it's dead at the newspapers).
I answered a few ads in the MW4W category and I answered one in the MW4MW even though I am in fact in a couple, perhaps a couple of couples come to that, I am not planning on dragging a partner or hubby to an orgy. But fun to think about. note: I chose Chicago for illustrative purposes, this is not to infer I am there or even nearby, or for that matter not there.
The one in couples for couples was pretty interesting. It brings into discussion here a term 'unicorn' that in Craigslist parlance is the ultimate find for a couple seeking a girl for a threesome. The ever elusive girl that not only wants to be in a girl-girl situation, is not only OK with the lucky dude watching, no she even will let him participate. Personally I would love to be that girl. I would be a little nervous about it..I don't want to fuck up anyone's relationship while I fuck them together, consecutively or simultaneously. But the possibilities are more than interesting.
The ad that caught my eye was one I had seen similar ads to in the past. Basically a couple give up on finding the unicorn, have a discussion and decide to loan the girl out to another couple provided said couple returns the favor, the girl and their girl.
I just browsed those Chicago ads looking for a similar deal but no luck..too many to look through. If you are in Chicago, though holy moly lotsa possibilities!
So I answered the couple looking for a couple be interesting to see how that conversation goes. Not sure how to go about exploring the what-ifs without looking like a craigslist flake myself. Which I am sort of. I always liked reading them long before I had any idea I was in fact, "that kinda wife."
Oh by the way for the un-tested without battle scars of wading through Craigslist responses, do NOT use either an email address that gives an indication of who you are, or for that matter that you mind having spammed. You will get spam galore depending on how well you read between the lines of the spammers posts.
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